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Hardware => Bobcat DMX Tester => Topic started by: Donny M. Carter on February 14, 2012, 06:17:41 pm

Title: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: Donny M. Carter on February 14, 2012, 06:17:41 pm
Can the Bobcat be programmed to test other DMX controllers? Like a Renard with DMX protocol. Maybe have two different PICs, one for Lynx and one for Renard. Thanks for any info either way!

Donny
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: chrisatpsu on February 14, 2012, 07:26:41 pm
Does the renard with dmx respond to dmx?    Dmx is dmx?
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: tbone321 on February 14, 2012, 07:34:23 pm
The Renard doesn't deal with DMX in the normal way but the tester should still work with it.  The trick it to only connect one Renard to it at a time.
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: Donny M. Carter on February 14, 2012, 09:04:42 pm
Thanks guys! Will give it a try!

Donny
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: JonB256 on February 14, 2012, 09:30:25 pm
You'll need a pin converter for Renard. The boards use pins 4 and 5 instead of 1 and 2. But they are reversed from LOR/D-Light (where pin 4 is Data + it becomes Data - )
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: chrisatpsu on February 14, 2012, 10:00:35 pm
so for clarity of people readin this thread...

Renard uses which pin for data+, -

LOR uses which pin for data +, -
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: caretaker on February 15, 2012, 04:27:03 pm
LYNX  =   Data + Pin1   Data - Pin2  (White with orange stripe/Orange)
LOR   =    Data + Pin4   Data - Pin5 (Blue/White with Blue Stripe)
Renard = Data - Pin4     Data + Pin5 (Blue/White with Blue Stripe) Pins 1 & 2 Gnd

You can find this information in the WIKI

Corrected error for Renard Pins...
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: bcstuff on February 15, 2012, 04:54:23 pm
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LYNX  =   Data + Pin1   Data - Pin2  (White with orange stripe/Orange)
LOR   =    Data + Pin4   Data - Pin5 (Blue/White with Blue Stripe)
Renard = Data - Pin4     Data + Pin4 (Blue/White with Blue Stripe)

You can find this information in the WIKI

Renard is actually Data - Pin4    Data + PIN 5
and ground on Pin 1 & 2 for the RS-485 protocol.

Please refer to this link for information on all Renard pin outs
http://doityourselfchristmas.com/wiki/index.php?title=Renard_Data_Cables (http://doityourselfchristmas.com/wiki/index.php?title=Renard_Data_Cables)

There is also a DMX (RJ-45) to Renard Connection diagram on the bottom of the above page.
That diagram shows the pin out for a cable adapter that must be used for running DMX data into a Renard, if the Renard is also flashed with the DMX firmware.
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: chrisatpsu on February 15, 2012, 06:31:32 pm
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LYNX  =   Data + Pin1   Data - Pin2  (White with orange stripe/Orange)
LOR   =    Data + Pin4   Data - Pin5 (Blue/White with Blue Stripe)
Renard = Data - Pin4     Data + Pin4 (Blue/White with Blue Stripe)

You can find this information in the WIKI

i know, but once someone writes it in a thread, it now becomes searchable for all the future generations of blinky rookies  : )
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: Steve Gase on February 15, 2012, 08:03:52 pm
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LYNX  =   Data + Pin1   Data - Pin2  (White with orange stripe/Orange)
LOR   =    Data + Pin4   Data - Pin5 (Blue/White with Blue Stripe)
Renard = Data - Pin4     Data + Pin4 (Blue/White with Blue Stripe)

You can find this information in the WIKI

i know, but once someone writes it in a thread, it now becomes searchable for all the future generations of blinky rookies  : )
Is renard using pin 4 for both positive and ground?
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: tbone321 on February 15, 2012, 08:28:18 pm
that would not be possible.  This is a typo.  Pin 5 is positive and pin 4 is ground.
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: chrisatpsu on February 15, 2012, 09:50:04 pm
it's not really ground, but more of the negative voltage
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: tbone321 on February 15, 2012, 10:25:37 pm
That's not really correct.  The RS485 ues a differential voltage.  When the + is a t 5V and the - is at 0V that is a positive differential and is considered a 1, when the - is at 5V and the + is at 0V tht is considered a negative differential and is considered a zero.  There is no negative voltage on either wire but you are correctin saying that neither is a ground so I was wrong there.  Pin 4 is the negative lead, not the ground.
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: Steve Gase on February 15, 2012, 11:58:44 pm
Since there have been multiple back and forths, could someone summarize in table form the accurate info?
when I saw a latter message with incorrect info i missed that there had already been a correctio, then follow-on discussions ensued, and we missed seeing a final conclusion.

i think most of the threads could benefit for a final summary.
Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: tbone321 on February 16, 2012, 10:02:53 am
Here is the updated table. 

LYNX  =   Data + Pin1   Data - Pin2  (White with orange stripe/Orange)
LOR   =    Data + Pin4   Data - Pin5 (Blue/White with Blue Stripe)
Renard = Data - Pin4     Data + Pin5 (Blue/White with Blue Stripe)

Title: Re: Programming for other DMX controllers...
Post by: chrisatpsu on February 16, 2012, 10:33:11 am
USE:            Data+          Data-          586B (most used)                                    586A
LYNX            Pin1             Pin2           (1)White Orange / (2)Orange                    (1)White Green / (2)Green
LOR              Pin4            Pin5            (4)White Blue / (5)Blue                            (4)White Blue / (5)Blue
Renard         Pin5             Pin4            (5)Blue / (4)White Blue                            (5)Blue / (4)White Blue