PIXELNET WIRELESS

[chrisatpsu]

With this, each horse has 4096 channels and all horses are coordinated with the others.  You are limited only by the amount of battery you can carry.  Heck, add more hubs... or even double up the entire setup to get 32,768 on a horse. 

each horse has 16384 channels  (4096 per leg, er..  i mean universe)

[rm357]

I found some zig bee modules that come close (921 Kbps), but they still won't carry a single pixnet universe at full speed.

Most of the stuff I've looked at so far only supports serial protocols to 115 Kbps.

How to relate bps to #of channels?
It takes 10 bits to represent one byte of pixelnet type data (1 start, 8 data, no parity, 1 stop). This is 1 channel, but it takes 3 channels to control 1 node.

There is also a synchronization sequence that has to be sent so that all of the SSCs know to reset their channel counter for the first channel of data. After that the counter is incremented by one for each byte of data received...

[Steve Gase]

With this, each horse has 4096 channels and all horses are coordinated with the others.  You are limited only by the amount of battery you can carry.  Heck, add more hubs... or even double up the entire setup to get 32,768 on a horse. 

each horse has 16384 channels  (4096 per leg, er..  i mean universe)

if you had (4) smart hubs, (4) power supplies, etc.  then you'd have 16,384 channels. 

[sittinguphigh]

Wireless Serial data what would that compute in channels?
I did see some of these with board only for 11.00 to 25.00 dollars on ebay.
If these are the same ones. Not multicast but it's a option.

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This could work for multicast to houses next to you. All one show.
If your neighbors have Christmas lights your just add them on.
With very little cost to them. Just extra wire and a wireless board. You may need a hub.
But keep the cost down for them. Be more willing to join in.

Or have the whole show with people walking. Wow that would be cool.
You could do caroling this way.

With Cars the same way. The car music people would love this.

A mobile Christmas show. Go were the people are.

Your children would love it to use this for school or church Christmas functions.

The linked product can only handle 1/10th the data rate needed for a wireless Pixelnet. The conductor/slave is the envisioned solution. If you do not like that method maybe use E131 with routers but that defeats the purpose of minimizing the network traffic to just a sync packet with conductor/slave.

+1
Lead horse:  EtD with Conductor-daughter board, active smart hub, power suppply, ASUS wireless router, SSCs and strings.
Partner horses: EtD with Slave-daughter board, active smart hub, power suppply, ASUS wireless router, SSCs and strings.
 
With this, each horse has 4096 channels and all horses are coordinated with the others.  You are limited only by the amount of battery you can carry.  Heck, add more hubs... or even double up the entire setup to get 32,768 on a horse. 

OK then I can use as many daughter boards as I wish with the conductor as main data.
And if I'm not using more then four SSC then I only need one 4 port hub.

Look back on the conductor coop the daughter board complete was only 39.95.
ETD                                         94.00
CONDUCTOR DAUTHER BOARD 40.00
HUB if more then one SSC        12.00
TWO STRINGS of 100 nodes      80.00
WIRELESS UNITS                      20.00
12V 9AMP BATTERY                  19.00
Total being                             265.00
Not included tax and shipping
Using only one SS of 128 nodes would be 232.00

I will have to see if I can sell that to my riding friends.

I think it will help to build a demo on my horse.

If any one thinks another way.
Considering cost and space let me know.

 

 

[Steve Gase]

You should check to see if everything will run from 12v.  The EtD and wireless could run in different voltages.

I was assuming that you'd have a computer battery UPS with 110v to run everything.

[MazdaFan]

Just spitballing here...

If the issue is that you don't have enough bandwidth to carry pixelnet outright because of flooding the network, what if the pixelnet were converted back to E1.31, sent over a wireless, and decoded at the other end.

Would that make a difference in the amount of data, or at least the packaging of the data, being sent?

Latency might be an issue with the conversions...
Cost Issues?  A conductor/slave setup vs a reverse-EtD/EtD?
Other Thoughts?

Jamie

[sittinguphigh]

I think the question would be is there a different between the DMX and PIXALNET E1.31
that you could not send the PIXALNET E1.31 threw wireless before the dongle.
I would think if that could be done RJ wouldn't have to made the CONDUCTOR DAUGHTER BOARD.
But maybe some one else could explain that in more depth.

[chrisatpsu]

Each EtherDongle has an RJ45 jack (plastic), and a MagJack (metal)

the plastic jack connects to your lighting hardware, and with pixelnet, this will not do wireless.

the metal jack will work with wireless (it's a regular network connection) and can be used to send a sync timing signal between a conductor and one or more slaves.



your problem is powering all of this gear on a horse.

[sittinguphigh]

I could use a portable unit but It's the cost fact that I'm trying to fix.
The daughter conductor would be close to same price as the portable wireless unit.
The deal would be to not need a ETD or the cost factor for the other horses.