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« on: January 04, 2012, 05:07:05 pm »
Does any one use lead free solder?
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Re: Solder
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2012, 05:24:48 pm »
For plumbing, yes. Circuit boards? no way.

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Re: Solder
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2012, 06:07:19 pm »
For electronics, I use both leaded and unleaded, depends on the project.

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Re: Solder
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2012, 12:11:40 am »
Any tips or tricks to using lead free solder?
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Re: Solder
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2012, 10:26:57 am »
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Any tips or tricks to using lead free solder?

I’m sure this post will draw alternate opinions;  my “secrets” for lead-free soldering are:

-Use not only a separate solder tip, but also a separate iron that’ll run higher temperatures.
-Use flux specifically for lead-free solders.
-Make sure the component leads are clean prior to fluxing.
-Make double sure the PCB pads/holes are very clean prior to fluxing.
-Solder hot (700f) and solder very quick.
-Preheat the PCB.
-Never re-solder a joint.  De-solder, clean thoroughly then solder.
-When repairing boards, never apply leaded solder to a previously lead-free PCB.  Never apply lead-free solder to a leaded solder joint.
-Remember that lead-free solder joints are dull and grainy compared to leaded joints that must be shiny and smooth!!!
-And finally, stay away from lead-free unless you positively, absolutely, undoubtedly must use lead-free!   Wanna save the planet?  Quit using plastic water bottles!

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Re: Solder
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2012, 02:44:03 pm »
i'm saving the planet, by placing the lead in my solder  : )

i use leaded solder, it just works really well for me.
maybe, i'm just grumpy and set in my ways
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2012, 04:01:06 pm »
I like lead in my solder. Smooth soldering that way. Never did like the way lead free flows.

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Re: Solder
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2012, 05:28:15 pm »
Coming from a plumber, lead solder flows better than lead-free.
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Re: Solder
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2012, 05:42:32 pm »
My first year or two I used lead free solder.  If you are going to go this route you NEED liquid flux.  When I found out how wonderful 63/37 was I couldn't stop beating my head against a brick wall <fp.

There is no comparison.  Lead free has to be soldered in with a hotter iron and it is a pain to desolder.  63/37 is ooooooh soooooo much easier to solder with.  You don't have to run your soldering iron as hot and it is soooooooo much easier to desolder!
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2012, 06:41:09 pm »
 <la.. I'll drink to that.
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Re: Solder
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2012, 09:24:19 pm »
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My first year or two I used lead free solder.  If you are going to go this route you NEED liquid flux.  When I found out how wonderful 63/37 was I couldn't stop beating my head against a brick wall <fp.

There is no comparison.  Lead free has to be soldered in with a hotter iron and it is a pain to desolder.  63/37 is ooooooh soooooo much easier to solder with.  You don't have to run your soldering iron as hot and it is soooooooo much easier to desolder!

what about a flux capacitor?
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2012, 09:44:17 pm »
Bang on the box with a rubber mallet each year before the first power up to break off the tin whiskers... Not hard mind you, but a few mild whacks.

Most lead-free formulations are prone to tin whisker growth. In a low vibration environment, these can cause low resistance paths between components that are pretty close to each other... Like adjacent pads on a chip...

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Re: Solder
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2012, 10:08:39 pm »
Having been to many symposiums and presentations at trade shows about implementing lead free process for ROHS certification I have come to one conclusion, only use lead free if someone has a gun to your head.  There is a reason that there is an exception in the ROHS rules for aerospace and medical, if a life depends on the product not failing do not use lead free solder.  I am afraid my days of manufacturing in the lead world.

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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2012, 10:15:54 pm »
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There is a reason that there is an exception in the ROHS rules for aerospace and medical, if a life depends on the product not failing do not use lead free solder. 


Prevention of Electricution could be a reason to use lead solder....
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Re: Solder
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2012, 03:47:50 pm »
Well then... Returning the lead free I accidentally ordered, and placed as order for leaded.
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